1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,760 The man of the moment... Tony! 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,800 - Same again? - No, not for me. I've gotta go. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,160 Night, Jim. 4 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,480 'The lovely Lesley there, with a beautiful song.' 5 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,240 Big hand, everyone. 6 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,720 Now next up, it's Brian with Sledgehammer. 7 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,120 That was amazing, love. 8 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,560 OK, make sure we've... 9 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,000 Good morning, ma'am. 10 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Well, it's morning, Jac. Whether it's good or not remains to be seen. 11 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Call came in about an hour ago. 12 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,440 A member of the public found a body at the foot of the monument. 13 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,400 And what was this member of the public doing up at 5am? 14 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,440 He works the night shift at the bakery up the road. 15 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,480 He was on his way home. Right. 16 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,240 We got a name? 17 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,800 According to the driver's licence, Jim Tullman. Born 1959. 18 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Lives over in South Shields. 19 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,800 How'd he die? Well... 20 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,400 From what I saw, someone beat him to death. 21 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Malcolm. What have we got? 22 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:33,200 Well, it's a prolonged and violent assault. 23 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,560 Well, how do we know he didn't just take a tumble down these steps? 24 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,960 There's a number of blows to the head and the torso. 25 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,600 Fatal blow, probably, is this one here at the back of the skull. 26 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,360 Were you on the whisky last night? 27 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,680 Sadly not. No, that's coming from the victim's clothes. 28 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,960 We found the murder weapon? Nothing yet. 29 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,560 What are we looking for? Well, if I had to narrow it down, 30 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,000 I'd say we were looking for something that was both heavy... 31 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,640 ...and blunt. Right. Thanks for that. 32 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,360 Did he die here or was he dumped? I'd say he died here. 33 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,760 He's a sturdy-looking fella. Looks fit for his age. 34 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,720 I mean, he'd have been hard to overcome. 35 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,720 Well, maybe there was more than one assailant. 36 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,160 Or he was taken by surprise. Any defence wounds? 37 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,560 Er, none that I could see. So he didn't put up a fight? 38 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,280 Nope. Doesn't look like it. 39 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,960 So, what, you just sat there and took it, did you, pet? 40 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,160 Time of death? He's fairly fresh, actually. 41 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,920 I'd say some time in the last six hours. 42 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,440 Kenny, is that who found the body? 43 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Yeah, he came across him around five. 44 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,400 Did he see anyone else around? No. But then it was early. 45 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,120 Right. So, get him over to the station to make a formal statement 46 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,000 and make sure he gets a cuppa. Aye, will do. 47 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,800 We've started collecting CCTV from the main road 48 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,320 and I've got uniform down there knocking on doors. Right. 49 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Why here? 50 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,400 I mean, it's not the kind of place you stumble across, is it? 51 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Was he was meeting someone? 52 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,640 Well, it's a funny time to be having a meeting. 53 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,560 Next of kin? 54 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Electoral register had his son living with him. John Paul Tullman. 55 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Right. Come on. 56 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,840 Er, we're looking for John Paul Tullman? 57 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,320 Er, DCI Vera Stanhope. Northumberland and City Police. 58 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,800 This is DS Healy. 59 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,280 We really need to speak to him, love. 60 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,600 John Paul! What's going on? 61 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,080 It's the police. What do you want? 62 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,480 It's best if we step inside, love. 63 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,040 No. No. You're all right out there. 64 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Well, there's no easy way to say this. 65 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,720 I'm afraid we've found a body, sir, 66 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,760 and we believe it to be that of your father. 67 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,400 We are so sorry, sir. 68 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,400 We believe your father was the victim of an assault. 69 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,520 We found his body near the Collingwood Monument. 70 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,800 What was he doing there? 71 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Well, that's what we need to establish. 72 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,480 Did he know anyone over that side? No. 73 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:19,520 When did you last see him? Last night. About seven o'clock. 74 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,680 Just before he went to the club. 75 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,880 The social club at the end of the road 76 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,280 where Jim went every Sunday. 77 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,560 And where were you two last night? 78 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,480 John Paul was here. I stayed over at my sister's in Marsden. 79 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,000 Were you here all night? Aye. All night. 80 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,400 Do you not normally wait up for your dad? 81 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,560 After the club, he'd sometimes go back to the Claytons' for a drink. 82 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:46,200 What, and they're friends of his, are they? The Claytons? 83 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,320 Gary and Lesley. Yeah. They go way back. 84 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,280 And your mam? She around? No. 85 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,720 And where is she? I don't know and I don't care. 86 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:06,120 Now, is that your dad's van parked out front? 87 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Only, I notice it's got a smashed windscreen. 88 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,560 Did he have an accident? 89 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:13,640 Dad said it was just some punter that he'd had an argument with. 90 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,960 But we thought it had something to do with the court case. 91 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:20,040 What court case is this? 92 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,560 Some lad was getting charged with assault. Me dad saw it happen. 93 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:30,320 He was supposed to be giving evidence against him this morning. 94 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Which court? 95 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Northumberland Law Court. I think. 96 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,120 Who's prosecuting? Aliah Kapoor. 97 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,240 Yeah. About to go in now. 98 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,800 DCI Stanhope. Didn't know you were involved in this case. 99 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,840 We're not, love. Not directly. Would you excuse us, love? 100 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,440 We're here about your witness. Jim Tullman. 101 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,680 Tell me you know where he is. 102 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,080 Well, he's halfway to the morgue by now, pet. 103 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:11,920 Guessing it wasn't natural causes. No, he was beaten to a pulp. 104 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,040 How well did you know him? I didn't. 105 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,200 We had a meeting to go over his evidence a few weeks ago. 106 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Damn. And he was a solid witness. Calm, credible, and, best of all, 107 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,760 he was ready to identify Marcus Hynde. 108 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,960 What's the story with Hynde? 109 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,200 He assaulted a kid called Victor Samassi and put him in a coma. 110 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,000 Safe to say he's violent, then? 111 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,360 God. You think his death's connected to the case, don't you? 112 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:42,200 Well, you've got to question the timing. 113 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,360 Monica is kicking off out here. 114 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,160 This is absolutely ridiculous. We've been waiting here for hours. 115 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,240 No, I don't need to calm... 116 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,440 Please, Madam... Right. Why haven't we started yet? 117 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,680 There's a problem with our witness. What problem? 118 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:56,920 Erm, it's Mr Tullman, love. 119 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,760 I'm afraid he's dead. 120 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Er... OK. So, what're you gonna do? 121 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,080 Me and my brother have been waiting seven months for this, 122 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,280 so I wanna know when he can expect to get some justice. 123 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,640 I'm going to ask the judge for more time to prepare a new strategy. 124 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,160 I told you this would happen. Monica, you have to be patient. 125 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,320 Sorry about that. 126 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,600 It's all right. It's understandable. Erm, this is Ewan Webster. 127 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,680 He works for a charity that represents victims. 128 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:32,440 DCI Stanhope. DS Healy. Where is Marcus Hynde? 129 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,880 Marcus Hynde? Northumberland and City Police. 130 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,160 We'd like to ask you a few questions about Jim Tullman. 131 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Marcus, what's going on here? 132 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,400 It's the police, Mam. They wanna ask me some questions. 133 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,880 What questions? Er, what's your name, love? 134 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Andrea. Patrick, his brother. Well, Andrea, 135 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,080 we're investigating the murder of Jim Tullman. 136 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,920 Wait, is that the witness? So, why are you talking to Marcus? 137 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,240 Well, as I understand, Mr Tullman was due to be giving evidence 138 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,440 against your son in court this morning. 139 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,760 You lot really are unbelievable. 140 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,280 Look, I'm sorry this Tullman bloke is dead. But as for his evidence? 141 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,200 It was wrong. Marcus is innocent. 142 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,200 Now, if you don't mind, he has got a training session to get to. 143 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,600 Before you go. One question. Where were you last night? 144 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,960 At home. All of us. 145 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,880 You two make a nice couple. 146 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,240 So, you'll be wanting me to check them out? 147 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,240 Aye. And start with the smart-arse brother. 148 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,720 James Tullman. Known as Jim. 60 years old. 149 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,960 He was found beaten to death at the foot of Collingwood Monument 150 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,720 early this morning. 151 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,920 Now, we haven't had Malcolm's report yet, 152 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,840 but, safe to say, this was an unusually violent attack. 153 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Er, Kenny, what have we got on Tullman? 154 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,320 Bare bones at the moment. No criminal record. No debts. Er... 155 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,960 Worked as a self-employed builder.... 156 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Any issues with a client? We're checking on that, ma'am. 157 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,520 Right. What about the wife? Er, her name's Barbara Tullman. 158 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,160 Er, they've been separated for about two years. 159 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,000 We're still trying to get an address for her. 160 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,720 Right, well, quick as you can with that. 161 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,320 Now then, the son, John Paul, says his father was a regular 162 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,200 at a social club on Tring Street, 163 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,000 and he went there at 6:45 last night. 164 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,680 I spoke to the staff at the club and they confirmed Tullman arrived 165 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:42,280 at seven and left around nine-thirty. 166 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,640 What about these friends of his? Er... Gary and Lesley Clayton? 167 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,320 They both say that Tullman left the club early. 168 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Said "he had a big day tomorrow and needed to get home". 169 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,920 Yeah, well, I'll need to talk to them. 170 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,400 Now, he tells them he's going home, 171 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,080 which is no more than 200 yards down the road, 172 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,840 but instead, he ends up in Tynemouth. 173 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,680 Now, how'd he get there? 174 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:07,080 Didn't walk. So, was he with someone? 175 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,840 Was he given a lift? If so, who by? 176 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,680 Now, if he was on his own, his best bet would be to take the ferry. 177 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:16,000 Jac, you checking on that? 178 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,400 We're talking to the ferry company about getting CCTV. 179 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:24,680 Right. But the real question is: why was he in Tynemouth? 180 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Now, his son is adamant he didn't know anyone over that side, 181 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,920 so we'd better check on that. 182 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,760 What about motive, ma'am? Well, that's a good question, Mark. 183 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,960 We can't rule this out being a random attack. 184 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,600 But he was due to give evidence against a Marcus Hynde 185 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,840 in court this morning. 186 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,520 And if we didn't find that suspicious, 187 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,880 then we shouldn't be doing this job. 188 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Now, I'll be talking to the CPS later today 189 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,440 to get the details of the case, but, in the meantime, 190 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,840 let's do a background check on this Marcus Hynde and the family. 191 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,440 Could be they're the ones behind this. 192 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Ooh, and John Paul says his dad's windscreen was smashed recently, 193 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,120 and he thought it might have something to do with the case. 194 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,680 Aiden. What have we got on the windscreen? 195 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:19,240 Erm, well, he claimed for the damage, er, against the windscreen. 196 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,160 He's... I've got the insurance company calling me later. Yup... 197 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,360 OK. Ma'am? Malcolm's ready for you now. 198 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,800 Have you finished, then? Post mortem's done. 199 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,800 You're gonna have to wait for any lab results. 200 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,640 So, he died from cerebral haemorrhage, 201 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,160 caused by the blow to the back of the skull. 202 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,760 We also found what looks like splinters in the wound. 203 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,120 So, heavy, blunt, and wooden? 204 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,320 Correct, we've sent the splinters off for analysis. 205 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,400 See if they can identify the wood. Meantime, take a look at that... 206 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,360 It was lodged inside your victim's throat. 207 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,280 And... Wait for it. Placed there after he died. 208 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,760 What, someone put it there? My God. The speed of your mind. 209 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,240 So, is it his ring? 210 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,200 Doubtful. There are no ring marks on any of his fingers. 211 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,480 We will check it for DNA. 212 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,920 It is hallmarked, so you should be able to find out where it was made. 213 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,800 Other than that, doesn't really tell us much. 214 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,400 It tells us one thing, Malcolm. Which is? 215 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,720 Tells us this was personal. 216 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,320 At least we know it wasn't random. 217 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,160 The fact that the killer brought a ring suggests it was pre-meditated. 218 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Maybe. Maybe not. Killer could've been wearing it. 219 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,400 And shoving it down his throat could've been an afterthought. 220 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,000 A reflex action. 221 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,640 There's nothing about this killing that says it was planned. 222 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,160 It's messy. 223 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,560 Though, I think it's safe to say he was the intended target. 224 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,040 We'll talk to the son. See if he recognises the ring. 225 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,680 And, Kenny, can you contact the local jewellers? 226 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,600 See if any of them can identify the hallmark. 227 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,920 Already on it, ma'am. 228 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,080 Jac, is that Tullman's route from the club to the monument? 229 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,640 Yes. CCTV shows Tullman boarded the 22:10 service 230 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,880 and arrived in North Shields at 22:18. 231 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,920 Last sighting of him was at 22:21 232 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,560 as he leaves the North Shields Terminal. 233 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,280 Well, looks like he was on his own. Yeah, as far as we can tell. 234 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Right, so, we've got a two-hour window 235 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,000 from the terminal to the monument. 236 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,720 But it's only a 15-minute walk. DS Healy. 237 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,720 So we need to determine where he was in the interim. 238 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,320 John Paul and Amber have turned up at the morgue to identify the body. 239 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,160 Well... 240 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,960 I wanna know who did it to him. 241 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,880 That, well, that's what me and my team are working to find out, 242 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,240 so, erm... Can I ask you to take a look at something? 243 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,320 Either of you recognise that ring? Never seen it before. No? 244 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,240 Your dad never wore a ring? 245 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,800 He wasn't one for jewellery. What about a wedding ring? 246 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,600 He and your mam were married for 30-odd years, weren't they? 247 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,840 33. And Dad never wore one. Even when they were together. 248 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,360 So, you say you're not in contact with your mam, so, presumably, 249 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,040 she doesn't know yet what's happened... 250 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,400 Look, what is this? You lot are meant to be finding out who did it. 251 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,520 That's what we're doing. 252 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,840 What, by asking about his marriage and damn rings? 253 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,200 Have you seen his body? Someone kicked the life out of him. 254 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,640 I'll get you at the car. 255 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,640 Dear... His mam is a sore topic, is it? 256 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,080 He doesn't like to talk about her. Did his dad talk about her? 257 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,880 Well, not to me. We weren't that close. 258 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,240 But you must've got to know him a bit 259 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,880 if you were living in his house. 260 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,680 The only time Jim spoke to me was when he wanted something done. 261 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,400 Like what? 262 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,760 Cooking. Cleaning. His washing. 263 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,200 Yeah, Jim was a bit old-school when it came to things like housework. 264 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,400 Woman's place is in the home? 265 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,080 Something like that. 266 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,680 I should go check on John Paul. Sorry, love... 267 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,920 So, what do we think about John Paul's girlfriend? 268 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Mm? 269 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:51,080 She's hiding something. 270 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,520 Get Mark to check her alibi. 271 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,000 Make sure she was at her sister's last night. Are you listening to me? 272 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,040 Of course. Well, it doesn't look like you are. 273 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,520 I've to tell Mark to check on Amber's alibi. Anything else? 274 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Aye, you can lose the attitude. 275 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Honestly, we're... we're still trying to get our heads around it. 276 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,400 I mean... 277 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,960 ..it just doesn't seem real. 278 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,520 How long had you known Mr Tullman? 279 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,400 30 years plus. 280 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,080 We met on the first day of our apprenticeship. 281 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,400 Been best mates ever since. 282 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,840 It was, Jim introduced me and Lesley. 283 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,480 And Sunday nights here at the club, that was a regular thing, was it? 284 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,440 Aye. We've been coming since they started the karaoke. 285 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,160 Of course, Lesley's the singer. 286 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,440 How was he last night? 287 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,920 Jim? Just his usual self. 288 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Did he have much to drink? Couple of pints. 289 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,440 Any spirits? Whisky? 290 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,840 Nah. 291 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,440 So why did he leave early last night? 292 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,680 Well, he had the court case. 293 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,120 Did he mention feeling harassed about giving evidence? 294 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:59,080 No. 295 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,640 Nothing like that. 296 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,560 So, after Jim left, what did you two do? 297 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,720 Er... We stayed and had another couple of drinks. 298 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,480 And then... 299 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,480 we headed home about... ten? 300 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,400 Right, well, thanks for your time. 301 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,880 Someone attacked Jim in town. 302 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,560 He told me about it. 303 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,560 Some... lad went for him in the street. 304 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,000 Started shouting abuse. 305 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,360 Pushing him around. When was this? 306 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,280 Couple of weeks ago. 307 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,080 Did he say whereabouts in town? 308 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,120 Jutland Street, I think. 309 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,560 If some lad did have a go at Tullman on Jutland Street 310 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,280 then there should be plenty of CCTV footage. 311 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,000 And I'll lay money it was Marcus Hynde. 312 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,280 So, what do you want to know about the Hynde case? 313 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Well, anything you can tell us. 314 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,080 OK, so... 315 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,720 it's a Saturday night - closing time - 316 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,960 and Victor Samassi gets into an argument 317 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,160 with some drunk lad in a kebab shop... 318 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Marcus Hynde? 319 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,520 No, this is his brother, Patrick. 320 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Marcus comes in later. 321 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,440 So, Victor leaves the shop. 322 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,280 But as he's heading for his bus, Patrick catches up and it kicks off. 323 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,560 Problem is, Patrick's so out of it, Victor just pushes him away. 324 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,480 That's when it happens. What? 325 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,480 Last thing Victor remembers is someone attacking him from behind. 326 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,160 He hits the ground, and ten hours later, he wakes up in the ICU. 327 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,800 So Marcus jumped in for his brother? 328 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,440 Except nobody knew that until Jim Tullman gave his statement. 329 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,240 He saw the attack and identified Marcus Hynde as the assailant. 330 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,480 What about CCTV? Blind spot. 331 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,640 No other witnesses? 332 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,640 So Jim Tullman was your entire case? 333 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,240 And without him, I've got nothing. 334 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,240 Marcus Hynde. What's he like? 335 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,120 A good kid, on paper. 336 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,920 Never been in trouble. Talented footballer, too. 337 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,800 What? Professional? 338 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,680 Under 19s at the moment, but he's being courted by a few EPL clubs. 339 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,960 So a lot at stake for him, then? 340 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Just money, fame and glory. 341 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,920 Kapoor reckons he's about to be snapped up by some big club. 342 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Not if he plays like that. 343 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,440 What do we know about the mam? 344 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,360 Single parent. Honest. Hardworking. 345 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:48,360 And how about the brother, Patrick? 346 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,800 Fancies himself as a gangster. 347 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,600 Yes, Jack. 348 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,640 Your boy's got an attitude problem. 349 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,640 Aye, talking of attitude problems, what's going on with Aiden? 350 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,760 How do you mean? 351 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,320 Well, he's been... a bit off lately. 352 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Probably trouble at home. 353 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,240 What makes you say that? 354 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Well, he's a cop, isn't he? 355 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,720 So you were right about Jutland Street. 356 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,680 I looked into the Tullman incident... 357 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,640 and it didn't involve Marcus Hynde. 358 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,520 Patrick?! 359 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,480 Who the hell do you think you are? 360 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,320 If you think that little thug's getting away with it, you're wrong! 361 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,880 Just because you got to Tullman doesn't mean I'm gonna stop. 362 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,640 Are you here to arrest him? Monica, I need you to leave. 363 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,760 They killed our witness, you know? Jac. I need you to deal with this! 364 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,360 Sorry, I'm gonna have to ask you to move on. Where's Patrick? 365 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,560 He's not here. Kenny! 366 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,600 Where do you think you're going? Can't just walk into my house! 367 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,800 This warrant says different, love. 368 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,000 Back door! BACK DOOR! 369 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,120 Come here! 370 00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:59,440 Stop! Hey! 371 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,000 Aye, all right. I'm going, I'm going! 372 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,920 He hasn't done anything! 373 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,800 Get off us, man! Ma'am, you got a minute? 374 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,680 Check the bag, Ma'am. 375 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Heavy, blunt and wooden. 376 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,760 Ooh, you're in early. 377 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,920 Wanted to get ahead on some things. 378 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,840 Patrick Hynde's brief's turned up. What, already? 379 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,360 Yeah, they're talking now. 380 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:05,600 And I called forensics. It'll be at least a day before they can tell us 381 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,400 if the bat was the murder weapon. Yeah, what about his alibi? 382 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,360 Family's closing ranks. They all say they were at home on Sunday night. 383 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:14,720 So this is all we have on him? It's not much, but it's a start. 384 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,080 Well... let's see what he's got to say for himself. 385 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,240 Tell you what... 386 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,200 you're no slacker, Patrick, I'll give you that. 387 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,440 What are you, 22? 388 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,280 Look at everything you've done already. 389 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,000 We've got here possession, common assault, ABH, breach, 390 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,360 - drunk and disorderly. - Well, you only live once, 391 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:44,680 And now you've got witness intimidation to add to your CV. 392 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,840 Hm? 393 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,760 Now, these images were captured three weeks ago, on Jutland Street. 394 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,040 And I reckon that's you and that's Jim Tullman. 395 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,520 I don't know a Jim Tullman. Course you do. 396 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,080 He was due to give evidence at your brother's trial. 397 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,520 The one that didn't show up? 398 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,760 Aye, that's the one, but to be fair, he did have a good excuse, Patrick. 399 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,800 Someone had beaten him to death. 400 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,920 So, what did you say to him here? 401 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,600 I really don't remember. 402 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,160 Did you follow him after this point? Why would I follow him? 403 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Well, to make sure he didn't give evidence against your brother. 404 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,040 Word is Marcus is a real talent. Lot of big teams looking at him. 405 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,680 He's the Tyneside Messi. 406 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,120 So, lots to look forward to then? Big contract. Lots of money... 407 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:35,280 But if Marcus went to prison, 408 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,600 there'd be no meal ticket for you and your mam, would there? 409 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,400 Why do you have a baseball bat in your bedroom, Patrick? 410 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,520 For playing baseball. 411 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,440 I'm kidding. Obviously, I keep it for protection. 412 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,640 There's a lot of dangerous people running about. 413 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,120 You HAVE used it on someone, then? 414 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:55,520 Not yet. 415 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,440 What about van windscreens? 416 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,760 Tullman was being harassed 417 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,320 in the weeks leading up to your brother's trial. 418 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,080 And I reckon it was you doing the harassing. 419 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320 You attack him in the street, you smash up his van. 420 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,040 But that wasn't working, was it? 421 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,240 Cos he was still gonna identify your brother. 422 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,440 So, the night before your brothers' trial, 423 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000 you decided to shut him up for good. 424 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 Just one problem. 425 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,880 I was at home with Mam and Marcus that night. 426 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,720 There's no doubt he's threatening Tullman here. 427 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,160 And it's probably him smashed that windscreen. 428 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,560 Which makes him the main candidate for Tullman's killing. 429 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,320 But he has an alibi. What, his mam and his brother? Come on! 430 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,520 Well, it doesn't matter how weak it is, does it? 431 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,440 If we can't place him in Tynemouth on the night, then it holds up. 432 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,040 And at the moment, we can barely place Tullman in Tynemouth. 433 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,520 Jac, where are we with Tullman's movements 434 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,800 after he got off that ferry? 435 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,240 He's not showing up on any of the recordings we've got so far, 436 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,080 but there's still more to go through. 437 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,720 Well, we're getting nowhere fast here. As far as I'm concerned, 438 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,920 Patrick's got it in his locker to carry this off, 439 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,160 AND he's got motive. Tullman was a threat to his brother's career. 440 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,800 Well, I've no doubt he's capable of it. 441 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,160 But it's the ring that bothers me. 442 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,600 I mean, shoving it down his throat, that's not this lad's style. 443 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,840 It's too imaginative. 444 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,400 Kenny, where are we with the jewellers? 445 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,960 I found a place in Ouseburn. 446 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,200 There's a bunch of jewellers have studios there. 447 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,000 I was going to head down, see if anybody knows who made it. 448 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,280 Right. Well, we've still got two hours before we have to release him. 449 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,280 Ma'am? Let's see if forensics come back with anything on the bat. What? 450 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,560 I spoke to Holly Fenn, Amber Fenn's sister. 451 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,880 Now, she says that Amber stayed over at her flat 452 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,160 on the night of the murder. 453 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,200 But I've been through Amber's call history 454 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,480 and she made two calls to a landline that night - 455 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160 at 8:35pm and 10:15pm. 456 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,040 Let me guess, the sister's landline. Aye. 457 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,960 So why was calling her sister's flat if she was there already? 458 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,040 Why indeed. 459 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,280 So, can you tell me again, pet, where you were two nights ago? 460 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,160 I said, I was at my sister's. 461 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,440 Aye, you did, but your phone records say otherwise. 462 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,320 You phoned your sister's house twice that night. 463 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,360 Yeah, that's right. I went out to the shop. 464 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,880 I called Holly to ask if there was anything she needed. 465 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,800 Calls were 90 minutes apart. 466 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200 Must've been one hell of a big shop if it took you that long. 467 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,080 Now listen, love, 468 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,040 we can take you and your sister down to the station - 469 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,840 and keep you there - until you tell us the truth. 470 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,640 But it'd be much easier if you just told us now, pet. 471 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,120 I was meeting someone. Who were you meeting? 472 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,800 Who WERE you meeting? 473 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,880 I'm sorry. I should've told you, but I didn't want to get you upset... 474 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,160 She got in touch... 475 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,480 after I announced the pregnancy on Facebook. 476 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,600 Said she wanted to be part of it. Proper gran, like. 477 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,120 Is this John Paul's mam, Barbara? 478 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,000 She's REALLY nice, John Paul. 479 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,480 Where you going?! 480 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,440 When did she get in touch? 481 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,360 Couple of months ago. 482 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880 So you've seen her more than once? 483 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,320 Half a dozen times. 484 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,280 Did John Paul's dad know? 485 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,520 No. Barbara warned me 486 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,160 to be ultra-careful whenever we were meeting. 487 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,720 Why? She was worried what Jim would do if he found out. 488 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,440 Where is she? 489 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,200 She works at a cafe. 490 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,560 The Royal. 491 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,360 The one in Tynemouth? 492 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,240 What can I get you? We're looking for Barbara Tullman. 493 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,600 Who's asking? 494 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,080 Is she here or not? Yes, she's here. 495 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,640 DCI Vera Stanhope, Northumberland and City Police. This is DS Healy. 496 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,880 Is there somewhere we can chat? I take it this is about Jim? 497 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,160 Aye. 498 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,720 All right, erm... 499 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,880 I'm going upstairs for a bit, Doug. 500 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,040 Yeah, sure. Take your time. 501 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,920 Er, do you wanna come through? 502 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,200 You worked here long? Erm... just after I left Jim. 503 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,520 Yeah, Doug's an old school pal. 504 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,160 He gave me a job and a place to stay. 505 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,320 It's not great and it stinks of chip fat, but, it's me own space. 506 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,480 Did Amber tell you where I was? Er, she did, love. 507 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,280 Er, and I'm guessing it was Amber told you about your husband? 508 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,320 And I'm afraid John Paul knows you've been in contact. 509 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,520 My fault. 510 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,400 I should never have asked Amber to lie about our meetings. 511 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,240 So why did you? 512 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,400 Because I was scared of Jim finding out. 513 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,120 You're not mourning him, then? 514 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,360 I'm mourning him, he was the father of me son. 515 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,400 But I won't miss him. 516 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,760 Now, the night Jim died... 517 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,480 any idea why he came to Tynemouth? 518 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,960 No. 519 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,760 It wasn't to see me, if that's what you're thinking. 520 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,360 But you were here, right? Yeah, until about nine, when Amber left, 521 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,800 and then I walked her to the bus stop, erm... 522 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,600 ...went for a drink at The Maltman, 523 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,960 and I was back here for about half 11. 524 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,480 And you didn't see him? 525 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,760 I haven't seen Jim since the night I walked out on our marriage. 526 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,640 Now, if you don't mind me asking, why did you leave? 527 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,320 I had to get out of there. 528 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,400 Well, can't have been easy after 30-odd years. 529 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,240 Leaving your son too. 530 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,760 No, John Paul didn't need me any more. Why didn't you get divorced? 531 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,480 Because Jim was stalling. Maybe he still had feelings for you? 532 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,320 Can I just put you straight on Jim Tullman? 533 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,960 Look, you're gonna talk to John Paul and Gary and Lesley 534 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,200 and all his clients and his work mates, 535 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640 and they'll all tell you that he was a stand-up bloke. 536 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,560 That was his public image. 537 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,920 In private... he was a cruel, controlling man. 538 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,600 He-he stalled on the divorce to keep me on a string. 539 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,720 OK, just one other thing, love... 540 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:46,560 We found a ring at the crime scene. 541 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,480 Have you seen that before? 542 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,960 Um, sorry, don't recognise it. 543 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,240 No? 544 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,560 Well, that's it. Thanks, love. 545 00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,600 Thank you. 546 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,680 Could I have an egg and tomato roll, love? 547 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,800 It's Doug, isn't it? Yeah. Right... 548 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,400 Now, was it you who locked up on Sunday night, Doug? 549 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,160 Only, it couldn't have been Barbara, 550 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,200 cos she said she was out on Sunday night. 551 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,480 Er, yeah, come to think of it, it was me. What time? 552 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,320 Er... Well, we closed about ten. 553 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,600 I did some prep for the next day. Left at... 11? 554 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,200 And then where did you go? 555 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,360 It was late. I went home. 556 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,320 My place is couple of streets back. 557 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,000 Did you see anyone? 558 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,840 No. No-one. 559 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,360 Right... 560 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,120 And I'll have one of them, love. 561 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,240 Do we believe her? She didn't see him? 562 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,760 It's only a ten minute walk from that cafe to the monument. 563 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,440 I'll check with the pub, see if anyone remembers her. 564 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,440 And do a background on Doug, the cafe owner. 565 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,760 I got the feeling he was, he was protective of Barbara. 566 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,360 Mind you, I'm beginning to see Tullman in a different light. 567 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,960 I mean, she didn't actually say the words, 568 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,800 but I reckon that was an abusive marriage. 569 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,280 We've only got her word for that. 570 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480 Well, there must've been something going on 571 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,720 for her to prefer that tiny flat over a cafe to what she had before. 572 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:33,280 Get Jac to check with the solicitors. 573 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,840 See what was really going on in that divorce. 574 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,440 Come on. 575 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,800 I'll give you a lift home. No, no, you're all right. 576 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,400 I've still got some paperwork to do. I'll head off later. 577 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,040 I'll see you in the morning, boss. 578 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,800 Jac? Ma'am. 579 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,080 I'm at the ferry terminal going through the CCTV again, 580 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,760 and I found something weird. 581 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,960 That a technical term, is it? "Weird"? 582 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,760 There's a jogger on the quayside - 583 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,080 just before Tullman boards the ferry. A jogger? 584 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,840 I think it's Monica Samassi. 585 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,640 Hey, come on. 586 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,040 Where's the Land Rover? It's parked round the side. 587 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,800 What are you stood there thinking about? 588 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,480 Just wondering why we're here. 589 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,720 Cos Monica was seen at the ferry terminal the night Tullman died. 590 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,120 But she's got no reason to kill Tullman. 591 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,280 No motive. 592 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,240 If anything, she needed him alive to get her brother justice. 593 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:02,920 Yeah, might just be a coincidence. And you don't like coincidences. 594 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,720 So, get your paperwork done, did you? 595 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,960 Yeah. Yeah, all done. 596 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:22,520 Let's hope the lift's working. 597 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,000 What do you two want? 598 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,560 We just need to have a quick word, pet. 599 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,560 Thanks. 600 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,200 What you're feeling, Victor, is entirely normal, but... 601 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,960 you have to... 602 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,360 Everything all right? 603 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,280 Sure. We were just talking about Victor maybe going outside soon. 604 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,640 Isn't that right, Victor? 605 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,920 Victor, don't be rude. 606 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,000 Well, why not let your brother watch the TV and we can talk in here? 607 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,160 '..with Sophia - 608 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,160 'one of the world's most intelligent robots - it's become a reality.' 609 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,760 'And after flying in from Hong Kong, 610 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,360 'she joins us now alongside her creator David Hanson. 611 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,960 'Welcome to both of you. I can't keep my eyes off her...' 612 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,200 Sorry, about that. 613 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,800 That's all right, love. 614 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,640 He used to be outgoing. 615 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,800 Fun. 616 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,080 Now he's like a zombie. 617 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,800 The doctor said we should expect some psychological fallout, 618 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,640 but it's been seven months. 619 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,560 Is he talking to anyone? 620 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,600 I organised a counselling session through the charity, but... 621 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,360 Victor refused to attend. 622 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,720 He doesn't like leaving the flat. He gets panic attacks if he goes out. 623 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,680 So he does go out? Only if I'm with him. 624 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,600 He needs me constantly by his side. 625 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,520 I've had to go part-time at the gym just so I can stay home with him. 626 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,880 So you've no-one else to help care for him? 627 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,640 Mam died last year. It's just me. 628 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,480 I'm sorry to hear that. 629 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,640 It must be a struggle for you. 630 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,800 But I'm gonna have to ask you 631 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,800 where you and your brother were the night Mr Tullman died. 632 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,920 We were both here. All night? 633 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,720 Not all night. I went for a run. 634 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,680 And what time was that? I don't know. About ten? 635 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,400 Do you usually go for a run at ten o'clock at night? 636 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,640 No. 637 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,360 Victor doesn't like being left in the flat on his own. 638 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,360 So I had to wait until he went to sleep. 639 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,640 So where'd you go? 640 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,800 Not far. A quick 5K. 641 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,800 Did you go near the ferry terminal? 642 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,200 I might have. 643 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,920 I've got a running app on my phone. It sets up my routes. 644 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,520 Why's the terminal so important? 645 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,120 Because Mr Tullman was there at the terminal at the same time. 646 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,280 Boarding the ferry. 647 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,920 And you didn't see him? 648 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,240 Even if I had, I couldn't tell you. 649 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:07,120 I've never actually met the man. 650 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,840 So, how long have you been doing this? Couple of years now. 651 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,560 I was looking to do some volunteering, 652 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,400 and this seemed a worthwhile cause. Do you normally do home visits? 653 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,960 I usually see clients at our base, or in court, but... 654 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,440 Victor's agoraphobia is really quite acute. 655 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,440 What are your thoughts on Monica? 656 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,880 She puts up a tough front, but she's worried about Victor. 657 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,600 I think she thought the court case would help him move on. 658 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,400 So much for that. 659 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,600 Did you ever meet Tullman? Kenny, what have you got? 660 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,400 Briefly. I had a short session with him about witness intimidation 661 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,440 a week or so ago. 662 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,000 And was he being intimidated? 663 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,560 No, it was just a routine chat, and he was very relaxed. 664 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,200 He mention any confrontation with Patrick Hynde? 665 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,640 Not to me. 666 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,120 He was calm, confident. 667 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,840 That's why it's all so infuriating. He was almost the perfect witness. 668 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,200 So will the case be dropped? 669 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,600 Who knows? 670 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,480 Aliah is a good lawyer. She might be able to get a conviction 671 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,120 even without Tullman's testimony. 672 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,000 I just hope, for Victor and Monica's sake, that she does. 673 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Will you excuse us, love? 674 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,360 Course. 675 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,680 Right, cheers. 676 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,760 Kenny's found the jeweller. It's about time. 677 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,200 It's mine. But it's an old design. 678 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,080 Did these about three years ago. 679 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,320 And did you sell many of those, love? 680 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,960 Not enough to keep making them. I'd say about 20 maybe. 681 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,560 Do you have records of all the people that you sold them to? 682 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,480 If they bought it on me online shop, yeah. 683 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,160 But mostly I sell through galleries or craft fairs. 684 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,080 Well, whatever you've got, love, 685 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,600 if you can get it over to us as soon as you can. 686 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,520 It's a pretty design. Thanks. It was my take on the old betrothal rings. 687 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,000 When you say "betrothal" ring? Like an engagement ring. 688 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,680 So, whoever bought this...? Was probably going to propose. 689 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,520 Thanks, love. 690 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,440 Ma'am... 691 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,320 Jac. 692 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,720 Have you come across any evidence of a girlfriend in Tullman's life? 693 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,760 No, Ma'am. If he did have someone, he kept them well hidden. 694 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,840 And what about the solicitor? What's going on with the divorce? 695 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,320 I'm speaking to her later. 696 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,680 Ma'am, Malcolm needs to see you. 697 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,080 Right. 698 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,280 So, the bad news is, your baseball bat was clean. 699 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,680 Lab found no traces of Tullman's blood or DNA on it. 700 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,120 Brilliant 701 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,840 That was the one piece of physical evidence we had 702 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,400 against Patrick Hynde. 703 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,640 Well, it is unlikely that the killer used a baseball bat. 704 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,200 Traditionally they're made of either ash or maple, 705 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,640 but analysis of the splinters we found in his wounds 706 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,000 show that the weapon was made of pine. 707 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,920 It had also been treated with a finish. 708 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,080 What sort of finish? 709 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,880 Standard timber treatment. 710 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,520 But... 711 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,240 the big surprise came with the toxicology report. 712 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,600 We found traces of GHB in his system. 713 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,920 GHB?! 714 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,640 Normally it's very hard to detect as the body processes it so quickly. 715 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,120 But your victim was dead, 716 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,520 and his body wasn't processing anything at all. 717 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,120 So what's a 60-year-old builder doing taking GHB? 718 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,840 Well, it's not hard to get hold of. So I've heard. 719 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,040 And there was alcohol found in his system. 720 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,680 So could've been spiked? 721 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,840 You do know that's not him, don't you? 722 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,120 Spiked at the social club? 723 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,320 We don't know the drug got into his system at the club. 724 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,040 And given how fast GHB works, 725 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,240 it's more likely he ingested it after he left the club. 726 00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:59,040 Anyway, Gary said Tullman had only had a couple of pints 727 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,760 yet there was a strong smell of spirits on the body. 728 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,400 I'll get Mark to check the club, again, shall I? Yes, please. 729 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,920 Get him to talk to the bar staff. All the regular punters. 730 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,960 Find out what he was drinking, and if anyone bought him one. 731 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,800 What are we doing here, anyway? Looking for a murder weapon. 732 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,160 All right. Cheers, Mark. 733 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,080 Have a look at this. 734 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,680 This look like pine to you? Could be. 735 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,200 Course it bloody is. Get forensics back over here. 736 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,560 You think the killer used one of these? Aye, and if they did, 737 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,720 they improvised the weapon, which suggests no forward planning. 738 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,520 What about the ring? Exactly. 739 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,880 They didn't think to bring a weapon, but they brought the ring. 740 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,920 Now, why are you sleeping in the office? 741 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,800 And don't give us that look. 742 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,120 Saw your toothbrush in the loo this morning. I'd rather not discuss it. 743 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,440 Tough! You're my sergeant and you're working my case. 744 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,160 I wanna be sure you're not distracted. 745 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,920 You saying I'm not on the ball? I'm saying you've been prickly. 746 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,160 Look who's talking! 747 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,240 Come again. 748 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,400 Charley and me have been arguing a bit. Nothing big, but it's draining. 749 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,360 Some nights I can't face it. 750 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,600 So, you're hiding in the office? I don't hide. 751 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,520 I'm trying to give us both some space. That's big of you 752 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,400 So while you're kipping in the office, 753 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,440 eating takeaways and listening to the footie, 754 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,320 she's stuck at home looking after the bairn on her own. 755 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,160 No more sleeping in the office. 756 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,680 Either sort it out with your Mrs or find somewhere else to stay. 757 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,200 DCI Stanhope? 758 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,160 'Ma'am, it's Jac, we've just received a 999 call from Amber. 759 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,600 'She's at the Royal Cafe.' 760 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,000 - I haven't done anything wrong! - Get out! Get out! 761 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,600 She won't even listen to us... 762 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,920 Calm down! I wanna see her now! 763 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,920 No, Amber doesn't wanna see you, son. 764 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,200 John Paul, I need you to calm down! 765 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,360 That witch has got Amber in there! She wants to be here. 766 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,880 Crap! You've turned her against us. 767 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,440 John Paul, you're not helping anything here. 768 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,640 Why don't you leave it for now and go and cool down? 769 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,080 I'm not leaving without Amber! 770 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,600 You fancy a night in a cell? That's fine by me. 771 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,920 I just want Amber back! 772 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,960 Well, threatening her's not gonna make that happen, is it? Go home! 773 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,720 I can't! Why not? 774 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,760 I don't wanna be on me own. God... 775 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,480 Look, John Paul, I know it's hard, losing your dad. 776 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,800 But you're just gonna have to face it, pet. 777 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,560 Now, I'll talk to Amber. I'll see what I can do. 778 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,400 Now go home. I don't want him back again. 779 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,880 I won't have Barbara upset like that. 780 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,640 If he DOES come back, then I just might have to... 781 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,600 You might have to what, Mr Rooney? 782 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,440 Now I reckon Barbara and Amber would appreciate a cup of tea, don't you? 783 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,440 Aiden, hold on. 784 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,000 Right, go on. 785 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,240 I dropped John Paul off back at the house. 786 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,400 'And how was he?' 787 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,880 He was like a big kid. To be honest, I felt a bit sorry for him. 788 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,840 Where are you? I'm back at the station. 789 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,760 Aiden, I've told you about that. 'Tullman's insurance claim came in. 790 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,800 'The one that he put in for the damage to his van windscreen.' 791 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,040 Does it tell us anything? 792 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,840 'Well, according to the statement, he left the van on Peel Road. 793 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,040 'He came out to find the windscreen was smashed.' 794 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,640 Peel? How do I know Peel Road? 795 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,480 'It intersects with Efton Close.' 796 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,120 Where the Hyndes live? 797 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,560 Marcus! Don't go anywhere, pet. Don't go anywhere. 798 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,640 Marcus, come back inside the house. Sweetheart, come back inside. 799 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,000 Don't go anywhere, sweetheart! 800 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,880 Marcus, don't go anywhere! 801 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,520 What's happened? Where is he? 802 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,160 Patrick, have you tried phoning him again? 803 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,520 What's the point? Because I'm worried about him. 804 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,560 He's 19, for Christ's sake. I was staying out when I was 15. 805 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,160 Will you just try him again? 806 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,400 I didn't see you worrying this much when it was me. 807 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,160 Because you didn't matter! 808 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,560 I didn't mean that. I just meant... 809 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,560 Can you please call him again? 810 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,160 Straight to voicemail. 811 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,040 Well, we can put out an alert out on Marcus 812 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,080 if you tell us why Jim Tullman came to see you. 813 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,200 Who? 814 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,400 The fella who was going to testify against your son. 815 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,920 We know Tullman's van was parked on Peel Road about a week ago. 816 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,440 So did he come to see you? Course not. 817 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,840 Someone smashed his van up when it was round the corner. 818 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,960 Panned in his windscreen. 819 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,680 It wasn't me. 820 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,440 Hold on. What day was this? Tuesday. 821 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,960 Well, there you go, then. I work all day on Tuesdays. 822 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,560 Seven till four. And I was in Hull last Tuesday. 823 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,280 So, even if Tullman did come to the house, there was nobody here. 824 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,680 How about Marcus? 825 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,320 Was Marcus here on Tuesday? 826 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,400 Now, it could be that Tullman paid a visit to Marcus Hynde, 827 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,200 at his home, a week before the murder. 828 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,320 And as we all know, a meeting between the accused 829 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,520 and the key witness before a court case 830 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,000 could result in a mistrial. 831 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,480 So what we're interested in here, is whether this little tete-a-tete 832 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,000 was the reason he was killed, but first things first, 833 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,280 we need to find Marcus Hynde and bring him in. 834 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,800 We've got an alert out and traffic's looking out for his car. 835 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,040 Good. Now, in the meantime, Kenny, what's going on with forensics? 836 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,680 The team went back to the crime scene this morning, Ma'am. 837 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,640 Right. And Jac, do you talk to the solicitor? 838 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,040 Yes, Ma'am. Seems Barbara had been pushing for the divorce, 839 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,360 but Tullman was resisting. Why he was resisting? 840 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,200 The solicitor didn't say, but she did mention 841 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,640 Tullman caved three weeks ago. 842 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,520 So, he agreed to the divorce? Yeah, but here's the thing, 843 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,280 as soon as he did, Barbara got cold feet. 844 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,240 She was refusing to sign off on it. 845 00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,440 Good night? Spent three hours playing bingo. 846 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,000 Did you win anything? No. 847 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,600 But I did speak to someone who was at the karaoke on Sunday night. 848 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,240 He showed us some videos of his mates singing. 849 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,800 I got him to send you one over. You should have it by now. 850 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,520 Is this relevant? You'll see... 851 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,840 That's Gary and Lesley. 852 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,920 Looks like they're arguing. 853 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,640 Where's he going? 854 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,560 What time was this filmed? 855 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,400 Around 9:40. 856 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,120 You all right, Lesley, pet? 857 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,400 Come in. 858 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,840 Gary not around? 859 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,640 He's gone. 860 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,400 Gone? Gone where? 861 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,760 He's at The Lennox Street Hotel. 862 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:32,360 Now, then, the night your mate, Jim, was killed, 863 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:37,000 Gary said you and he left the club together and came back here? 864 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,960 But that's not what happened, is it, Lesley? 865 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,560 We know you and Gary had a row at the club. 866 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,800 And I'm going to stick me neck out here 867 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,320 and guess that row was about Jim Tullman. 868 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,160 You were fond of him, weren't you? 869 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,440 I was his first girlfriend. Before he met Barbara. 870 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,280 I started seeing Gary after that. 871 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,880 Not because I liked him, but he was Jim's friend and, well, 872 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,400 I thought... You'd still be close to Jim? 873 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,480 So, for 30 years, you've been in love 874 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,960 with your husband's best mate? 875 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,000 You must think I'm pathetic. 876 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,680 That's none of my business, love. 877 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,800 But what I am wondering is this. 878 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,920 Why was Gary so angry that night, 879 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,080 I mean, why then? After all this time? 880 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,080 I waited a year after Barbara left Jim. 881 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,520 I gave him his space. 882 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,520 And then I told him how I felt about him. 883 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,800 And what did he say? 884 00:54:57,720 --> 00:54:59,120 Said he felt the same, 885 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,760 so we began meeting, 886 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,120 during the day, when Gary was at work. 887 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,680 And I'm guessing Gary found out? Yes. 888 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,440 But then Jim wanted more from the relationship 889 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,040 and I said I wasn't ready. 890 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,280 And he said that was fine, but when we met after that... 891 00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:19,120 ...he spoke about Barbara. 892 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,800 Said she'd had second thoughts about the divorce, 893 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,440 and they'd been in touch. 894 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,280 Lesley, where did Gary go after you rowed? 895 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,080 I don't know. 896 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,880 Thanks, love. 897 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,800 Ma'am. Kenny? 898 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,480 Gary Clayton. 899 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,280 He found out Tullman was having a fling with his missus. 900 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,640 And I reckon that gives him a pretty strong motive for murder. 901 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,880 He's over at The Lennox Street Hotel, 902 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,680 so get a team over there and pick him up. 903 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,320 Will do. Hold on. 904 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,840 Aiden? Ma'am, I'm at Brunswick Cove. 905 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,120 Where are ya? 906 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,640 Popped up on the system about an hour ago. 907 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,080 He was arrested for going on a joy ride last night. 908 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,640 Led two patrol cars on a chase out of Newcastle. 909 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,360 They finally caught him about two miles down the road. 910 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,000 Was anyone hurt? 911 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,960 Yeah. Arresting officer. He punched him and broke his nose. 912 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,520 For God sake... We've got him in an interview room. 913 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,680 Well, you've really gone and done it now, Marcus. 914 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,760 I mean, most people'd call it a night after the reckless driving. 915 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,760 But not you. No. 916 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,080 You had to top it all off by taking a pop at a traffic officer. 917 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,680 What the hell were you thinking? 918 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,080 I wasn't thinking. No, well, of course. 919 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,040 You've had a lot on your plate, haven't you, pet. 920 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,040 GBH charge. Delayed court case. 921 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,320 Not just the court case. What else is there? 922 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,920 She's picked out a house, y'know? 923 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,400 Says she's buying it as soon as I start earning money. 924 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,800 This your mam you're talking about? 925 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,480 I didn't mean to hurt that lad. 926 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,040 Now, if you're talking about Victor Samassi, 927 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,440 I need you to think very carefully about what you say next, love. 928 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,240 Might be an idea to call his solicitor. 929 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,520 I dunno what happened. I really don't. 930 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,760 I remember it was Patrick who started it. That lad. 931 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,280 He was just defending himself and I went... 932 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,800 I lost it. I kept hitting him. 933 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,960 I couldn't stop. 934 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,560 When it was over... When I saw his face... 935 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,400 I'm so sorry. 936 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,240 If you were that sorry, Marcus, 937 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,280 why didn't you admit to what you'd done? 938 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,600 I wanted to go to the police. I wanted to hand myself in, but... 939 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,280 But your mam wouldn't let you? 940 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,360 Well, she said that... it was a one-off. 941 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,440 And that good people shouldn't be punished for making one mistake. 942 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,320 And what do you think? 943 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,240 I just think about that lad. 944 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,040 Hey, hold up. Not done yet. 945 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,640 I need to ask you about Jim Tullman. 946 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,280 Now, I know he came to your house to see ya. 947 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,440 He turned up at the front door. 948 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,400 This was after Patrick had a go at him in town. 949 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,400 He told me to call Patrick off. 950 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,760 He said that he was wasting his time. 951 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,280 So, you smashed up his van? 952 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,560 What? No. 953 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,560 That wasn't me. I mean, yes, it did happen 954 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,520 while he was at my house... but I didn't do it. 955 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,400 So who did? No idea. 956 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,960 Lynda, the neighbour, like, she was the one that saw it. 957 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,160 She said it was some bloke on a motorbike. 958 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,360 What did Tullman mean when he said Patrick was wasting his time? 959 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:17,200 He said that he was going to change his testimony 960 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,160 and he was gonna tell the court that it wasn't me who he saw. 961 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,520 Yeah, right. Why would he do that? 962 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,040 I have no idea. Because he did see me. 963 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,720 He saw what I did to that lad. 964 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,440 Hold on. 965 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,280 Tullman was gonna let you off the hook? 966 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,080 And he told you this over a week ago? 967 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,840 So how come this is the first we've heard of it? 968 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,120 Because I didn't tell anyone. 969 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,520 Why not? 970 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,760 I was hoping Tullman wouldn't change his mind. 971 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,280 The truth is, I wanted him to testify against me. 972 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,440 I needed him to do what I was too scared to do. 973 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,680 We only have Marcus' word that Tullman was changing his evidence. 974 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,240 Well, no reason to lie, he had already confessed. 975 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,640 So what made Tullman change his mind? 976 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,800 Well, that's what I wanna know. 977 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,000 Kapoor said he was the ideal witness. 978 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,240 So did Webster. 979 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,920 So why did he switch? 980 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,480 Bribery? 981 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,040 Well, whatever the reason, he did change his tune, 982 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,240 which meant he was no longer a threat to the lad. 983 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,120 Still a problem for his mam and Patrick. 984 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,320 They didn't know he was changing. They had motive. 985 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,480 And then there's Gary Clayton. 986 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,040 I mean, if he thought that Tullman was sleeping with his wife. 987 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,480 That says crime of passion to me. 988 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,240 Have we brought Clayton in yet? 989 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,880 He checked out of the hotel. They're trying to track him down. 990 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,200 Don't the Samassi's have motive now? 991 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,720 Tullman changing his evidence 992 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,680 would mean that Marcus would walk free. 993 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,640 Monica Samassi was very keen on getting her brother justice. 994 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,160 And she was at the ferry terminal. 995 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,360 Yeah, but they would have had to have known Tullman 996 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,640 was changing his evidence. 997 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,880 Maybe Tullman told them. 998 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,560 Well, he's not going to do that, is he? 999 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,080 And even if he had, she'd have gone straight to Kapoor. 1000 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:07,080 Maybe. Or maybe she felt so betrayed by Tullman that she killed him 1001 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,000 before he had the chance to exonerate Hynde. 1002 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,320 OK. All right, Jac, look at Monica. 1003 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,880 See if there is any way she could have known Tullman was switching. 1004 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,640 Don't sit down, we're going out. 1005 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,120 See if we can get some answers from Mrs Tullman. 1006 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,320 There's no way I was going to get back together with that man. 1007 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,920 So why did your husband tell Lesley Clayton that you were? 1008 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,200 I haven't got a clue. 1009 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,440 But knowing Jim, he'd have had his reasons. 1010 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,440 So you weren't in contact with him? No. 1011 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,120 Lesley said you were. 1012 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,160 Yeah, well, won't be the first time in her life 1013 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,600 that Lesley's got it wrong. 1014 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,960 I told you before, I washed my hands of Jim. 1015 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,840 I didn't want him in my life. So why did you stall on the divorce? 1016 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,440 Aye. The solicitor said your husband was ready to proceed. 1017 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,560 The only person stalling was you. So why didn't you sign? 1018 01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:01,400 You're right. You're right. Jim offered me a divorce 1019 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,880 on condition that I gave up on my share of the house. 1020 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,440 I mean, how am I going to agree to that? 1021 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:11,520 Look at me. I'm a waitress. I've got no cash, no savings, 1022 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,080 no home. 1023 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,320 I needed Jim to buy me out, so I could start again. 1024 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,120 So what happens to the house now? 1025 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,000 I mean, technically, you're still married, 1026 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,840 so that means it goes to you, right? I haven't really thought about it. 1027 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,640 Somehow, I doubt that. 1028 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,720 Whose motorbike is that? That's Doug's pride and joy. 1029 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,400 Did Doug know about the troubles you had with your husband 1030 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,720 and the divorce? How do you mean? 1031 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,760 Did you discuss it with him? 1032 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,320 Yeah, might have had a chat about it. 1033 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,160 And what did he think? 1034 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,880 That it was out of order. 1035 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,600 What, that your husband was out of order? 1036 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,120 Where is Doug now? 1037 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,880 Um, Amber asked him to get some things from the house. 1038 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,040 Thanks, love. 1039 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,160 Mr Rooney? 1040 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,440 Oi! Oi! Hold on. Hold on. 1041 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,960 That was nothing to do with me. 1042 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,360 John Paul? 1043 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,560 John Paul? 1044 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,040 HE GROANS 1045 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,800 How's John Paul doing? 1046 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,680 Injuries are bad, but not life-threatening. 1047 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,000 Kept him in overnight. We can speak to him this afternoon. 1048 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,040 Right. That Mr Egg and Chips in there? Yeah. 1049 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,640 Well, he can wait. 1050 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,240 Morning, Ma'am! 1051 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,280 It wasn't me. 1052 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,360 Look, I never laid a finger on the lad. 1053 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,120 That's the God's truth. 1054 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,560 I... I just went over to pick up some clothes for Amber. 1055 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,240 That was all. Why were you running? 1056 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,400 I wasn't. I was just leaving. 1057 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,600 Leaving? What, you were going to abandon him? 1058 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,880 Leave him there in that state? Why did you not call an ambulance? 1059 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,680 I guess I was frightened. 1060 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:03,880 Of what? 1061 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,920 Of whoever did that to him. 1062 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,120 I was worried they might still be about. 1063 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,080 Doesn't sound like the tough guy 1064 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,560 who was issuing threats a couple of days ago. 1065 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,320 No, look, I didn't mean anything by that. 1066 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,480 So, what do you make of that, then? 1067 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,720 That wasn't me. 1068 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,520 Well, we have a witness who saw a man smash that windscreen. 1069 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,200 And she said the man left on a... 1070 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,400 What sort of vehicle was it, DS Healy? 1071 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,960 A motorbike. You have a motorbike, don't you? 1072 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,680 I was angry. Look, he'd upset Barbara. 1073 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,520 By cheating her out of her share of the house. 1074 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,560 So, I went to see him. Oof. How'd that go down? 1075 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:44,720 He didn't want to know. 1076 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,600 He told us to sod off and mind my own business. 1077 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,320 So, I waited down the road. 1078 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,920 And when he came out, I followed him. 1079 01:05:54,920 --> 01:06:00,360 And then smashed his windscreen? Like I said, I was angry. 1080 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,800 You know what this is? What's that, Ma'am? 1081 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,360 Some girl he had a thing for back in the day, 1082 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,440 a girl he had no hope of landing 30 years ago, 1083 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:11,800 comes knocking on his door. 1084 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,360 With nothing but the clothes on her back 1085 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,760 and an estranged husband with a grudge. 1086 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,920 But, he takes her in. 1087 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,920 He gives her a job, roof over her head. 1088 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,320 Cos he's a decent bloke, he's a nice fella. 1089 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:25,680 I was being a friend. 1090 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,520 Well, you can tell yourself that if you like, love. 1091 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:34,640 But I think deep down you thought, maybe, just maybe, 1092 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,160 this might turn into something more. 1093 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:42,280 Maybe a romance? But there was just one problem. 1094 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,480 Jim Tullman. 1095 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,240 I mean, how were you and Barbara going to get together 1096 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,160 With Jimbo on the scene? 1097 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,040 And I'd bet you'd have done anything to rid her of that bully of a man. 1098 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:03,160 He did come to the cafe that night, didn't he? 1099 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:13,480 Doug, we've looked at every aspect of that man's life. 1100 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,360 And the only person he knew in Tynemouth was Barbara. 1101 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,520 He came to the back door. He said he wanted to see to Barbara. 1102 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,520 I told him she was out. But he said he'd wait. 1103 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,960 Did you give him something to drink? What? No, of course not. 1104 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,360 So, he came to the cafe. Then what happened? 1105 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,400 Well, that was it. 1106 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,280 He waited. And when she didn't show, he left. 1107 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,280 And you just let him go? 1108 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,320 What else would I have done? What else? 1109 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,600 Well, maybe you decided enough was enough. 1110 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,120 Maybe you followed him up to that monument and killed him. 1111 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,120 That would've solved everything, wouldn't it? 1112 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,160 He'd be dead. Barbara'd get the house 1113 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,320 and you'd get Barbara. 1114 01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,560 I didn't kill him! I didn't do anything. 1115 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,880 I just sat there while he slagged me off. 1116 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:08,440 I sat there like a bloody coward. 1117 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,440 Cos the truth is... 1118 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,600 ...I was scared of him. 1119 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,320 There. You happy? 1120 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,960 Why did he come to see Barbara? I don't know. 1121 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:33,120 When he left, he said "Tell her it's about the fig tree". 1122 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,760 The fig tree? What did he mean by that? 1123 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,160 I've no idea. 1124 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,160 I have never heard cowardice being used as a defence before. 1125 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:49,240 Well, just cos he's a coward, doesn't mean he's not a murderer. 1126 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,440 Tullman was incapacitated by the GHB. 1127 01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:56,000 You don't have to be brave to tackle a fella who's been drugged, do you? 1128 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,880 Now listen up, everyone. 1129 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,400 Tullman did visit the Royal Cafe the night he died. 1130 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,600 He went there looking for his wife Barbara 1131 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,240 but instead, found Doug Rooney the cafe owner. 1132 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,640 Now, Rooney says Tullman was abusive and then left, 1133 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,720 but I want a forensic team going over the cafe 1134 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,320 and Barbara's flat upstairs. 1135 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,000 Can you get on to that, Jac? And Mark. 1136 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,280 Rooney said Tullman mentioned The Fig Tree, now what is that? 1137 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,480 A restaurant, shop, cafe? Find out. 1138 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,080 Ma'am. Anita Sinha, the jeweller, 1139 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,840 they sent a list of her customers who'd bought the betrothal ring. 1140 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,000 Now, is there anyone with a connection to Tullman? 1141 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,600 Not that I can see right now, no. Right, well, keep digging, Kenny. 1142 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,520 Will do. Erm, forensics have confirmed 1143 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,720 that the wood posts found at the crime scene 1144 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:46,760 is the same type of wood 1145 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,720 as the splinters found on Tullman's body. 1146 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,320 Did they find the actual murder weapon? 1147 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,200 No. But uniform, they've picked up Gary Clayton 1148 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,240 outside a pub on the riverside. Right! 1149 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,960 Look at the state of you, man. My wife doesn't love us. 1150 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,000 Here we go. She loves him. Always has done. 1151 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,960 I knew. Even when we got married. The barman stopped serving him, 1152 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,400 and called the police once he refused to go. 1153 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,200 Right, Gary, I need to talk to you about the night Jim died. 1154 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,120 But you're in no state to answer any questions now, 1155 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,880 so, I need you to home... I went after him. 1156 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,960 Gary. For your own good. I need you to button it. 1157 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:31,000 I was gonna have it out with him. Man to man. Mano a Mano... 1158 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,440 But I ended up doing something terrible. 1159 01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:38,160 Gary. I'm warning you. I went to a strip club. 1160 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,760 You what? 1161 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:44,200 Well, I couldn't find him, could I? Give me strength. 1162 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,960 I didn't really want to go. 1163 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,680 But see, I knew Lesley wouldn't approve. 1164 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,840 I didn't enjoy it, though. 1165 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,920 Nice girls, but I just felt out of place, like. 1166 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,800 Make sure you get him home. Let him sleep it off. 1167 01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,280 Bloody idiot. 1168 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,400 And on the subject of sleep, 1169 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,600 where did you end up spending the night? 1170 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:11,800 At a mate's house. 1171 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,360 You need to make good with your missus. 1172 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,840 Yeah, well, maybe Charley needs to make good with me for once. 1173 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,520 Grow up! 1174 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,080 You're a husband and a father. 1175 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,880 I don't see why it's always me that has to back down. No? 1176 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,960 Well, if you don't, you risk losing them, 1177 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,160 you could end up like him. I'll never end up like him. 1178 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,760 Jac? Can't afford the posh hotels. 1179 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,160 Seriously, Aiden, whatever it takes. 1180 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,480 Jac, give me some good news? 1181 01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:38,520 The search team are on their way to the cafe. 1182 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:39,800 'Right, listen...' 1183 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,880 is there any way Monica Samassi 1184 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,600 could have known Tullman might change his testimony? 1185 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,280 On the day Tullman died, she did get a few calls. 1186 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,480 Most of them came from an office at the law court. 1187 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,760 Well, well, well. 1188 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:55,960 It was a mistake, 1189 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,800 I was just trying to manage her expectations. 1190 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,640 Monica had become completely obsessed with the case. 1191 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,120 She'd pinned everything on Marcus Hynde being found guilty. 1192 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,320 And knowing how strongly she felt, 1193 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,480 you thought it would be a good idea to tell her Tullman was switching? 1194 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:10,480 Kapoor asked me to go and see him, to sound him out, 1195 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:12,160 and I got the impression he was wavering. 1196 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,200 You hear that? He got the impression. 1197 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,880 Bad enough he tells Monica her only witness is about to betray her, 1198 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,640 it might not even have been true. 1199 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:21,840 I thought it was true. 1200 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,600 I've been doing this long enough to know 1201 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,240 when a witness is getting cold feet. 1202 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,760 So, why not tell Kapoor? I don't know. I hoped I was wrong. 1203 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,280 But I still felt I had to prepare Monica for disappointment. 1204 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,960 And in doing so, you gave her a reason 1205 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,240 to go after Tullman. 1206 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:36,320 No, she understood. 1207 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,520 She said she didn't hold it against him. 1208 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,760 Pull the other one. 1209 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,240 There is that lass, stuck in a flat with a brother she can't help. 1210 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:48,520 And the one man who could've got her justice is bottling it. 1211 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,280 Gonna let Marcus Hynde walk free. 1212 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,480 Now, if it was you, if it was your brother, 1213 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:54,320 wouldn't you have held it against him? 1214 01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:13,200 Why am I here? 1215 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,160 Because you thought Tullman was going to change his testimony. 1216 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,520 Webster called you the day before the trial. 1217 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:26,280 Here, that must've been a gut punch, that. 1218 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,840 Marcus Hynde, walking free, after what he did to your brother. 1219 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:35,920 Now, we downloaded the routes for your running app. 1220 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,560 The night Tullman died, you ran more than 5km... 1221 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:43,280 According to the app, you ran from your flat 1222 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,320 all the way to Tullman's house. 1223 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,560 Then you turned your phone off. 1224 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,080 Because there's nothing more recorded on the app. 1225 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,360 I didn't kill Tullman. Well, you went to find him. 1226 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,920 Because I wanted to know if he was gonna let Hynde walk free. 1227 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,880 How did you know where he lived? I knew his name. 1228 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,480 Webster told me he was a builder, 1229 01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:06,640 So it was easy to find out where he lived. 1230 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,200 I ran over there to have it out with him, 1231 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,440 but he wasn't in. I didn't see him. 1232 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,880 Well, you must've seen him 1233 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,080 when you followed him to the ferry terminal? 1234 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,000 I didn't follow him. 1235 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,520 And I didn't know he was on that ferry. 1236 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,480 I'm telling the truth. 1237 01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:23,680 Going along the river is the fastest way back to the flat. 1238 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,240 I was just going home. Why turn your phone off? 1239 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,920 It must've ran out of battery! 1240 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,600 OK. OK. 1241 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,640 So, let's go back to Tullman's house. 1242 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,560 According to the app, you were there for ten minutes. 1243 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,520 I waited to see if he came back. How do you know he wasn't in? 1244 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:44,080 I rang the bell. No-one answered. You didn't see John Paul? 1245 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,840 Who's John Paul? His son. 1246 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,480 He said he was up all night. Well, he's lying. 1247 01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:50,640 There was no-one there. 1248 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,040 The night your dad died? 1249 01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,720 You remember that, don't you? 1250 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,480 Cos you told us you were home all night. 1251 01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:02,480 Aye. And I was. I never went out. 1252 01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:04,520 Really? Only we know someone 1253 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,440 who came knocking on your door that night, and there was no answer. 1254 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,000 I must've been in bed. At ten o'clock? 1255 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,760 I was tired. Now leave me alone. 1256 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,600 Tell us about the person who attacked you. 1257 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,640 You must be able to remember something about that. 1258 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,720 Was it a man or a woman. Old, young? Big, small. 1259 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,080 I don't remember. 1260 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,680 Was it Doug Rooney? I said I don't remember. 1261 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,080 Tell us about the fig tree. 1262 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,320 I don't want to talk anymore. 1263 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,960 What was all that about? I don't know yet. 1264 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,760 But I'll tell you what it's not about, 1265 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,560 it's not about the Hynde's or the Samassi's. 1266 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,240 And it is not about Jim Tullman witnessing an assault... 1267 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,920 We've missed something. Jac? 1268 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,840 I found something at the flat, Ma'am. 1269 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,600 'Well, what is it?' 1270 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,320 There's two shirts and they're covered in blood. 1271 01:16:14,230 --> 01:16:15,960 So, two articles of clothing, 1272 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,360 one large men's shirt, 1273 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,280 and one medium sized Northumberland Daggers 1274 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,720 replica football top. 1275 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:22,800 What about the blood? 1276 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,480 Well, tests show it's human, 1277 01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:26,120 and it's the same blood on both shirts. 1278 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,280 Well, someone lost a lot of it. 1279 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:30,760 Can you date the blood? 1280 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,440 Determine when it got on to the shirts? 1281 01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:34,480 That's a little bit beyond us, I'm afraid. 1282 01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,240 It has to be within the last two years. 1283 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:37,320 Really, DS Healy? 1284 01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,520 And that's your scientific opinion, is it? 1285 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,600 The Daggers shirt. That design is from two seasons ago. 1286 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,360 Oh... 1287 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,160 Well, I suppose I'll have to give you that. 1288 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,680 Well done. 1289 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,160 Ma'am, Barbara Tullman's in custody now. Right... 1290 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,840 Ma'am, regarding the Fig Tree... 1291 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,520 The only local reference I found was a restaurant in Jesmond. 1292 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,120 But it's closed down. When did it close? 1293 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,720 About 18 months ago. 1294 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:14,720 Gonna show you a couple of photos of some items we found in your flat, 1295 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,760 under your bed, wrapped in plastic. 1296 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,640 So, do you want to tell us about those? 1297 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,240 We've tested these blood stained shirts. 1298 01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,080 It's the same blood on both. 1299 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:35,320 So, whose ever blood it was, they lost a lot of it. 1300 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,280 OK. All right. I'll tell you what I think. 1301 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:44,520 I think these shirts belong to your husband and your son. 1302 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,840 And whatever happened to cause this, 1303 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,040 is the reason that Jim was killed, 1304 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,280 and John Paul is lying in a hospital bed. 1305 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,480 Now, I don't know exactly what happened, 1306 01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:58,600 but I believe it has something to do with these shirts 1307 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,760 and The Fig Tree restaurant. 1308 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,520 I don't know the whole story. I was only there part of the night. 1309 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:16,600 It was Jim's birthday. 1310 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,800 John Paul wanted to celebrate. 1311 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,440 He booked a table at The Fig Tree. 1312 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,360 Night was a disaster. 1313 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,320 Jim was in a foul mood, 1314 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,880 and it didn't help that the table next to us 1315 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,160 was getting a bit loud. 1316 01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:34,760 Eventually... 1317 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,280 ...Jim tells them to keep it down. 1318 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,120 Usually, people did what Jim said. 1319 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,520 But this bloke, he stands up to him. 1320 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,000 Tells him they've a right to enjoy their meal. 1321 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,360 So, then what happened? 1322 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,560 By this time, the whole restaurant's looking at us. 1323 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,680 Not only is Jim angry, he's lost face... 1324 01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,080 I know there's gonna be trouble. 1325 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,320 Outside... 1326 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,320 ...Jim puts me in a taxi, sends me home... 1327 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,640 ...and him and John Paul wait outside the restaurant. 1328 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:18,640 And I'm guessing they were wearing these shirts. 1329 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,720 Couple of hours later, they come home... 1330 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,120 ...covered in blood. 1331 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,600 I ask Jim what happened, 1332 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,360 but he just tells me to get rid of the shirts. 1333 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,080 So, why didn't you? 1334 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,040 I don't know. 1335 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,560 I'd planned to. 1336 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,560 But then, about a week later, I saw this story in the local paper. 1337 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:58,160 This young lawyer who'd collapsed in court. 1338 01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,720 Died of a blood clot. 1339 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,080 There was a picture of him. 1340 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,240 I felt sick. 1341 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,400 I knew Jim had done this. 1342 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,840 He'd killed this poor man. 1343 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,680 So, why not go to the police? 1344 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:28,880 Because my son was involved. 1345 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,000 Why'd you keep these shirts for so long? 1346 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,440 I told him if he didn't let me go, 1347 01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:39,040 I'd send them to the police and tell them what he'd done. 1348 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,280 It worked. 1349 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,280 What was this fella's name? 1350 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:47,800 Aldo. 1351 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:51,800 Aldo Rossi. 1352 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,120 Interview terminated at 16:08... 1353 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:10,000 The list! Kenny. The list. The ring list. 1354 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,760 I knew it. Aldo Rossi. Well done, Kenny. 1355 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,840 He bought a ring from Anita Sinha, 1356 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,080 paid by credit card on the 14th August, 2017. 1357 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,400 Now, who did he buy the ring for? 1358 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,960 It's two years since he died. 1359 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,280 I'm only now getting back to normal. 1360 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,440 Yeah, well... 1361 01:21:57,440 --> 01:22:00,560 we're sorry to be opening old wounds, Mrs Rossi. 1362 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,080 The wounds never close, my dear. 1363 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,440 Well, I guess we'd like to start by asking 1364 01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:07,120 what kind of person Aldo was. 1365 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,760 He was a remarkable young man. 1366 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,280 But I'm biased, I suppose. 1367 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,000 Did he have anyone special in his life? 1368 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,560 Girlfriend or fiancee, maybe? 1369 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,560 No. 1370 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,960 There were lots of girls who liked him, 1371 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,560 but Aldo always said he wasn't the type 1372 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,800 to settle down with a wife and kids? 1373 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,120 Is that right? 1374 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,280 So, no-one he was close to? 1375 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,920 Well, he had lots of friends. 1376 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,840 Friends like Ewan? 1377 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,680 Yes. Ewan Webster. Do you know him? 1378 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,920 He and Aldo were thick as thieves. 1379 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,680 To have lost him like that. 1380 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,400 That can't have been easy. 1381 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,280 A loss that can't be recovered. 1382 01:23:18,440 --> 01:23:21,040 So, that night at The Fig Tree... 1383 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:24,880 ...they were waiting outside for you? 1384 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,680 They were on us so quickly. 1385 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,760 Tullman was punching Aldo before we knew it. 1386 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,400 And the son, too. 1387 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,560 Aldo's face was covered in blood. 1388 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,440 He went down. I saw Tullman... 1389 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,440 ...kick him in the temple. 1390 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:49,880 I tried to help, but, erm, the son had me up against the wall. 1391 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,360 Didn't hit me. He just... 1392 01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:54,800 ...held me there... 1393 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:59,880 ...let me watch as Tullman jumped on Aldo's head. 1394 01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:01,920 I thought he was gonna kill him. 1395 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:06,120 But he didn't. Aldo walked away. 1396 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,640 I took him home. 1397 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:12,680 He was in a bad way, but he said he was all right. 1398 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,720 He even made a joke about it. 1399 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,520 Then, six days later I get a call. 1400 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,480 He's collapsed. Dropped dead. 1401 01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:26,680 Why didn't you tell anyone at the time? 1402 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,840 I thought about it. 1403 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,840 But I couldn't identify Tullman, 1404 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,440 and the doctor at the hospital said she couldn't confirm 1405 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:38,000 that Aldo's death was the result of the assault... 1406 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,800 So, how did Tullman come into it? 1407 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,080 Witness orientation. 1408 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,040 I was there when they showed him round the court, 1409 01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,520 and soon as I saw him, I knew. 1410 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,360 You should have come to us? 1411 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,480 We both know how it works. 1412 01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:56,720 A two-year-old crime? No witnesses? No forensics? 1413 01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,960 I wouldn't get justice. 1414 01:24:59,960 --> 01:25:01,600 So, you doled out your own? 1415 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,280 No. I didn't start out on some revenge mission I... 1416 01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,560 I tried to forget about it. 1417 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,080 But after about a week, I realised it wouldn't let go of me. 1418 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,200 I went to his house. 1419 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,880 I just wanted him to admit what he'd done. 1420 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,840 He denied everything, said I'd made a mistake, 1421 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,040 I was harassing him, and if I didn't leave him alone, 1422 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,080 he was gonna call the police. Can you believe that? 1423 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,520 Well, I think you must have spooked him. 1424 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,480 Cos I reckon that's why he backed out 1425 01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:28,800 of identifying Marcus Hynde in court. 1426 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,480 Maybe he was afraid it would draw attention to himself. 1427 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:34,200 Hmm... 1428 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,400 I feel bad for Victor and Monica, though. 1429 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,480 They deserve their justice, too. 1430 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,960 How did you get the GHB into him? 1431 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,520 I promised him I'd leave him alone if he just had a drink with me. 1432 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,200 To toast Aldo. And he thought about it. He... 1433 01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:56,720 ...looked me over, weighed me up. 1434 01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,120 Must have decided I wasn't a threat. 1435 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,000 So, we walked up to the monument. And he's drinking all the way. 1436 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,040 My plan was just to get him to admit what he'd done. 1437 01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,280 I didn't care about court. 1438 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,080 I just needed to hear him say it was him. 1439 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,240 And did he? 1440 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,160 He laughed. 1441 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,400 Well, that would have been the effect of the drugs, pet. 1442 01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,240 I could feel the anger build. 1443 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,560 I tried to walk away. 1444 01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,480 Got as far as the gate, but I could still hear him... 1445 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,400 And it was just lying on the grass. 1446 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,120 So I picked it up. 1447 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,480 And I walked back over there. 1448 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:43,600 He's still laughing. 1449 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,160 And I hit him. 1450 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,800 And I kept hitting him until I was exhausted. 1451 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,240 Why did you shove the ring down his throat? 1452 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,280 I did it for Aldo. 1453 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,600 Thought he'd appreciate the flourish. 1454 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,720 Thought I'd feel better.... 1455 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,360 But you didn't, though, did you, pet? 1456 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,280 Maybe for a day or two. 1457 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,680 But then there was John Paul. 1458 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,560 Didn't seem right that Tullman should be the only one punished. 1459 01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,840 Well, you stopped short of killing him. 1460 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,120 Why? 1461 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,760 I don't know. 1462 01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,520 There was a cot. 1463 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:42,720 Still in the box. 1464 01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:45,880 I just... 1465 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,080 Me and Aldo wanted kids, too. 1466 01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:01,720 Ewan Webster, I'm arresting you for the murder of James Tullman, 1467 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,880 you do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 1468 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,080 if you do not mention, when questioned... 1469 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,160 ..something you later rely on in court. 1470 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,120 'Anything you do say, may be used in evidence.' 1471 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,440 Right. 1472 01:28:24,440 --> 01:28:26,920 So, do you want dropping anywhere? 1473 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,640 At home. I've called a truce. 1474 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,360 Me and the wife are having dinner tonight. 1475 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,000 We're gonna try and sort things out. Good. 1476 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,680 Now, if you want my advice, be patient. 1477 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,280 Listen to her. And be prepared to compromise. 1478 01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,480 Right. That's your advice, is it? Aye. 1479 01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:46,160 Patience and compromise? Yeah. And be flexible. 1480 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:47,240 Oh. 1481 01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:51,160 Flexible? 1482 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,160 Can you hear yourself? 1483 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,600 Are you saying I'm not flexible? 1484 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:59,880 I am not saying anything. I'm flexible, mate. 1485 01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:01,840 I put up with you, for a start. 1486 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,880 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com||cleaned myloc@subscene.com